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And we're back for another episode of the Human. Behind it. I'm Dr. Miche. And I am Stephanie. And today I wanted to bring up the topic of American Idol.
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I guess we could talk about the Voice as well, but the singing competition show, actually, they just brought back Star Search. Did you ever watch that when you were. Oh, yeah, when I was little. Yeah. So they brought that back too.
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So lots of. But if I remember, Star Search wasn't just singing, was it? Okay. It's more like America's Got Talent. Yeah.
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Okay. But there is singing on it. And I tried to watch Star Search. I couldn't really get into it. It's cute.
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Like, who's hosting it? Anthony Anderson. Oh, yeah, yeah. The only Law and Order. Right?
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I don't know. It's from Blackish. Okay. Yeah, he was on Law and Order. The only thing I will say that was really cool that I didn't get to do because I didn't watch it live is you get to vote with your remote.
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Like, it puts the stars on the screen. What? Yeah. So that's kind of cool. Yeah, I didn't get to do that.
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But I bring all this up because American Idol is my very favorite show. You know, I love singing competition shows. Yes, she does. But the reason why I like American Idol the most out of all of them is because they are the best storytellers. Okay.
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So when I watch the Voice, I only watch it through, like battle rounds and then I lose interest. And it's because I think the Voice focuses more on the judges as characters. I was gonna ask that. Cause I've watched both of them. Not very much, but I feel like the judges or on the Voice are more part of it.
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The stars. Yes. And that's fine. Everyone, you got to have your thing. Oh, yeah, they're great.
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But on the Voice, I mean, on American Idol, the stories tend to be the main driver of the show. And I find myself watching it all the way to the end because I'm so invested in these stories of these people. Cuz there's like crying, right? Like I feel like Katy Perry. And it's.
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It's actually Underwood now. Oh, okay. Yeah. Which is another thing. So Carrie Underwood.
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So it's Carrie Underwood, Luke Bryant and Lionel Richie. Okay, Luke. Bryan. You know, I don't listen to Country. I love him from the show.
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He's so funny. Like, if you follow him and his wife on Instagram, they're always screwing around and they have so much personality and. And they seem like genuine. Like it's so real. Yes.
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It doesn't seem fake. And Lionel Richie, I think just the nature of his age. He's gonna come across as real because he's outside of the bubble of what culture says is ideal, Right? Yeah. So he's already, like, on the outskirts, even though he's famous and huge.
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Yeah. But these people that sit right in the, like, top of their game. You look at, like, a Carrie Underwood. I don't find her very human. Yeah.
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Likable. No, I don't think she is at all. I've read a couple articles that she had done, and this was years ago when she first was making it big. And it was ick. Like, it was.
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She was not my perception. I have not read anything about her. I've never heard anything about whether or not she's, like, a diva or. I just my perception of watching her, she seems very. As if she feels like she's superior.
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Now, she might not actually think that, but that's the vibe she's giving off. Like, I'm up here, and you're here. Which is so weird because she came from that show. So the article I read, she was talking about American Idol, and she kind of came across as. She didn't really want to do it.
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She didn't really care. And, like, oh, my God. I guess I'm. I guess I made it. Like, there was no humility I felt when she was a contestant.
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So the article I read was, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago or something. So she had been making music since then, but in the article, they had asked her about American Idol. Weird. And it was kind of just flippant. I don't know.
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I didn't. So that tracks from my experience of her, but it makes me think about. We talked about, you know, Taylor Swift and Jelly Roll being so human for how big they are. And Jelly Roll's been on American Idol as, like, a guest judge. Okay.
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You just find him. He loves the contestants. He's right there with them. You could tell he would invite them to go out afterwards. And I've experienced the same thing, you know, in the acl, I got to meet a lot of celebrities, NFL players.
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And you could tell the ones that were down to, like, have conversations with me, not just because I was a sideline reporter, because I was a human. And those who were like, yeah, no, you're. You're hallow me. We're not gonna pretend away with. You will do this because you're my sideline reporter and I have to.
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But. Right. We're gonna keep you at arms length. That's the vibe I get from her. That's not the vibe I get from Luke Bryan.
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I hate that. Because she was on American Idol. She knows exactly what those people are going through, like, more than anyone. Wow. So it's interesting to watch that.
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And then I do eventually want to play one of the artists for you on now in rotation, but I'm gonna wait a little bit. Okay. Because he's so real and raw. The most unique voice I've ever heard. But his story, he's so.
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He's just like. I don't know. I've never played for anyone before. It's just kind of what I do. It just makes you like them so much more.
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Yeah. So it's just interesting to watch these stories and how American Idol does it so well, so that those are just. Those are real humans. And, yes, they have incredible voices. But my question to you and everyone listening is, what do you think it takes to become.
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I don't even wanna say a star, but let's say to make it, because obviously there's millions of incredible talent and singers. It's like, what is it that makes these people step up? And outside of that, just like, yeah, you're another good singer. Yeah. Well, like we talked about before we went to Nashville and there was so many.
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Every bar we went to, every. We got to go Bluebird Cafe, everyone's incredible. So I think part of it has to be timing. Sure. I mean, right place, right time, right people.
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Yeah. I think in life, there's motivation for things like you want to be rich, you want to be famous, you want to lose weight, you want to do this. But if you're not a disciplined person, if that motivation's not there anymore, are you still disciplined to. Okay, interesting. Like.
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Like, I think, like, if you talk about weight loss and like, someone has a wedding or a vacation or something, their mo. Their motivation is there to lose the weight. And that has a time limit, though. Whereas making it, as we're calling it, which we heard from ymtk, that success looks different for every person. Right.
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He doesn't have a making it that someone else has. But whatever your definition of that, there's not really a time limit. I mean, you want there to be, but there's not. It's whenever. So it's discipline.
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It's like, it's. It. It's gumption. Right. It's not giving up.
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But also, like, I've seen people come onto the Voice at American Idol, and I'm like, they're incredible singers. But they're just. There's something missing. I was just gonna say too. There's something.
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There's an it factor. Yeah. There really is. It's weird. But what do we take?
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Aesthetics. Like that's the. That's the whole. No, it's not even aesthetics. There's a vibe.
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Yes. Okay. I don't want to say aura, but there's so here. I think it's one of two things. I think either you have this really infectious personality that people are just like that.
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You're meant to be a performer. You're meant to be on stage. I crave your energy. Right. And those, I think, are the people who are more confident in their craft.
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Like, I know I'm pretty good at what I do. I feel like I have something to offer. I feel like I'm a good writer or I'm a good performer or whatever. And then I think the other people lack confidence, actually. Yeah.
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And they have the just like. I don't know, I'm just me and like I'm just doing this thing and I don't even know if I'm good enough. But like, I'm just in it for the art and it's just what I do. And I think both of those to me are like the different it factors. Yeah.
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It's crazy. So let me backtrack. So maybe not motivation and discipline to get whatever your famous is, but maybe to keep it. Oh, interesting. You know, like you're motivated, but are you disciplined enough to keep your fame, whatever that looks like for you?
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We know there's a lot of one hit wonders. Yes. And we see that with athletes and movie stars. Like, you know, they go big, but if you don't have the discipline, you don't always stay at the top. Yeah.
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And then you have to be willing to change because times change. And then you have to be really, really freaking grounded. But to be. I think with some artists, they change. And I don't always like it.
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I know I'm like, could you, like, go back a few albums and give us more of that? Yeah. I guess there's a. A breaking point if you go way, if you stray too much. But maybe change isn't necessarily your sound, but maybe it's how you deliver it.
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Right. Like, I'm sure there's artists I know, one I'm not going to name who refuses to go on one of those singing competition shows. That's the times. You know, if you're. If you're an artist and you want your sound out there, you don't want to be just like, oh, wait, they don't want to, like, mentor or.
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They don't want to go. They don't want to go and audition. Oh, audition. Yeah, like. Like someone who's not known yet.
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Oh. And they don't want. And they don't want to go audition. It's like, that's just where we're at. There's like 70 million shows that you can go put your talent on television.
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Well. And I always tell people, why not? Like, why not? Why not? Someone has to get picked.
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Why not you? And you don't have to get picked. And you could still have a viral moment. Like, you have no idea what opportunities are going to come from that. There's huge stars that William Hung or whatever his name is from.
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Gosh, I think Morgan Wallen was on one of those shows. Was he? Yes. Okay. I'm not sure which one.
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Yeah. And that's it. You never know. You never know. You're still putting your craft in front of people who are in the industry.
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Yes. I've heard people say. I've heard judges say you're not right for this show, but I think you'd be great for, you know, Broadway. And so hopefully that person is watching. You know, there are different.
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It can lead you to different avenues if you put yourself out there. So how about we edit the word discipline to being open to any and all opportunities. Yeah, that would be. You have to be open. Yeah.
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And not, like, rigid with, like. No, I have to make it this way. Yes. To look like this. Well, and I don't think you get to do that if you're not.
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You haven't put in your. Paid your dues yet. So who. Who are you to. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, it is your choice. Have paid their dues, and they're like, when. When is my turn? And I know that's that timing, that's. That can be frustrating, but I do think you have to just kind of look at, like, well, are there opportunities that I'm missing out on?
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Yeah. And then I will say to wrap it all up, it all goes back to you just being you so loudly that it works somewhere. Right. Like, if you're the shy, awkward double down on that. That's your edge.
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That's right. If I pick your character. Yeah. Like, and it can be real. You don't have to take, like, you don't have to Lady Gaga where you're putting on a Persona because that kind of gets found out.
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You can only do that for so long, and it works On a stage that's. She is performative. She's not trying to necessarily be like, hey, get to know the real me. Yeah. She's like, connect to this really amazing, incredible performer.
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Yes. And like, that's been. I couldn't do it. I could only be me. I don't know how to, like.
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I don't know how to put on some kind of Persona or whatever. Like, it just is what it is. It's a gift. Look, I'll tell you, if you ever heard me commentate, you'll know that to be true, because I say and do things that are completely against all broadcasting and commentator rules. It's me.
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You get me? Yeah. I'm right there with you. It's. It is what it is.
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Yeah. But. Yeah, so that's kind of. That's kind of my question, and my topic today is just what. What kind of.
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How can you double down on your humanness to succeed in wherever you're at? We're talking about music and singers, but that's for anything. Right. And how can you show that human to whoever you need to show it to, to move forward in whatever direction you need to move forward. Yeah.
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And then there's people like, we were just talking about Carrie Underwood, who probably don't care if they're likable or not. Maybe not. I mean, there's an awareness there. I don't know some people really like that. And I'm not saying this about her because I don't know her, but I will say some people really like that feeling of having some kind of authority or superiority.
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Yes. Like, there's like that. That is kind of a place they want to sit where it's like, I've mastered this and I want there to be space between me and everybody else versus people are like, there's no space. I'm just like you. You're just like, I just happen to be doing this on a bigger stage.
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Yeah. And I feel like you're talking about contestants on those shows. I think if they had that attitude, it would totally turn people off. Oh, my God. Absolutely.
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Get out. Yeah. I don't care how good you sound, be gone. Yeah. Not interesting.
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Yeah. So, yeah, it's an interesting topic, but we'd love to hear your thoughts, so let us know. All right. This one brings global energy. Today's guest is Lemmy Boy, an Afrobeat and Afro pop artist whose sound is built on rhythm, culture and movement.
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Born in Nigeria, Lemmy Boy carries his roots straight into his music, blending traditional African rhythms with modern melodic production. His sound is vibrant, energetic, and impossible to sit still to. It's the kind of music that feels alive the second it comes on. Whether it's pulsing percussion, catchy hooks, or layered melodies, everything he creates is driven by groove and connection. With tracks like Vibe, Genesis, and Party, in my head, Lemmy Boy has been building a catalog that speaks to joy, motion, and cultural pride.
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His music travels across borders and brings people together through sound. He represents heritage. He represents rhythm. He represents energy. So today, we're not just talking to an artist.
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We're talking to a creator who carries culture in every beat and movement in every melody. This is Lemmy Boy. Afrobeat driven, globally inspired, and this is the human behind it. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much for putting me on your show.
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I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to talk to you guys. It's crazy that we're talking to you and you're all the way in West Africa and we're all the way over here in California. It's crazy. But I guess that's what music does.
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You know, music breaks boundaries, you know, so it brings people together. And, you know, if it was not for the music, we'll probably not be here right now. So. Yeah, we love your music. I just introduced you to Stephanie just this week.
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She's been listening to it all week. And very. Like you said, joy, it's like such happy music. You can't help but smile and dance. Yep.
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And I would say if anyone was ever feeling a little blue to put you on and brighten their day. Definitely brighten their day. But I think the first question I have is just, what's life like in Nigeria? Because that's something we're completely disconnected from over here. Oh.
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You know, life in Nigeria sometimes can be quite difficult to get, but we tend to, you know, we are hustling people. You know, we. We like to make innovations. We like to try and see, push around, you know, make a few things happen. Ye.
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So it's not quite easy. Well, I mean, if you are really, you know, bent on doing it, you find a way. Have you lived anywhere else? No, no, just in Nigeria. And what is your, like, your town, your community?
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Think about what you do in your music. Okay. Actually, I'm from a small place in Delta State, actually. So right now they are attempting to. They love me.
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They love me. And they are. They're down to ride, you get. They are my small support system. Yes.
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I have a community of people that actually enjoy my song. And before anybody could actually tap into It. They already saw the vision, and they already saw the potential I could bring. Yeah. So that's it.
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How old were you when you started getting into music? I was going to studio since I was, like, 16, 17, but I recorded my first track in 2019, so I was probably, like, 18. And officially when I actually put on my first movie. And what's the big dream? Where do you want to go with this?
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I want to go as far as I can. I mean, I'm already here talking to you guys, so it feels like, you know, I'm getting somewhere. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I want to go as far as I can with it.
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I want to be able to represent my culture globally with my music. I want to be able to tell stories from Africa about my music. You know, when you listen to my music, you. You feel like dancing makes you happy, puts you in a kind of mood again. And that's what my people represent.
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You get. We are happy people, and, you know, whatever it is, we live through it also. I want to be able to tell the world my story through my music. That's what I'm trying to do, and I hope it goes well. You know what?
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Other artists inspire you?
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I have a lot of them. I have a lot of them. I have a lot of them in my country, of course, from my country. So, yeah, love Burna Boy. Yeah.
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Big inspiration. You have whiskey. You have Davido. Yep. You know, you have Mr. Easy.
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We have the same inspirations.
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I mean, we have a lot of people that have, you know, paved the way and still paving the way for us. So it's a blend of a lot of sounds and a lot of cultures. You know, in Nigeria, we have a lot of cultural differences and a lot of tribes, so we're all from different places, but music is united in us. Do you know how those artists like Burna Boy, especially because he's massive. Like, how did he get known outside of Nigeria?
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Like, do you know what he did to get that exposure?
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I really can't see, to be honest, because I'm a fan of you myself. You know, I've been listening to Bona Boy for a very, very time, and I just figured, you know, when you listen to Bon Boy right from the start, you know, he's really good. And I think if you're really good, it's just gonna take time, you know? So I think he got his really big break because he's been really good. So you are.
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You are too. I stumbled across you, I think, actually on Spotify, because I Do like the Discover Weekly. So it gives me music it thinks I'm going to like based on what I listen to. I mainly listen to Afrobeats and hip hop. And I think it just thought, oh, you'd probably like this song.
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And it sent me your song. I. That's how I got you. But it's, like, so in line with all those other artists that I listen to. And I'm curious if you could just tell people a little bit about what Afrobeats is, because they may have never listened to it.
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Oh, okay. Afrobeats is a genre of music. You know, it's founded by fellow Nicola Pokosi, and it's a blend of jazz and, you know, drums. And it's basically Africa has a lot of instruments that just, you know, tries to combine everything into one. You get.
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So that's. That's what the Afrobeat is about. You get. So we, as a people, we tend to infuse our cultures and our slangs, our languages into it. So some people sing in Yoruba, and you don't know what Yoruba means, but you like it.
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Some of us singing. Singing Robo. Yeah. So Afrobeats is just a combination of African culture. It embodies it.
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So any artist that's like an Alphabet artist when you listen to it, when you listen to him, gives you the African vibe, makes you feel like you're connected to the roots. Yes. Are there any artists that you listen to that people would be surprised to hear you listen to? That's a tricky one. Like, are you, like.
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Are you, like, a pocket, like, Taylor Swift fan over there? I listen to Drake a lot. Okay. Drake, Okay. I listen to Drake a lot.
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I listen to Liuing a lot. You know, I. I grew up listening to a lot of rap music, American hip hop, li, Wayne Drake, you know, Nicki Minaj, Chris Brown. So I listen to those guys, too. Was someone in particular that. I don't think anyone would guess.
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I listened to his. I listen to Skip Marley. I don't know if you know him. Oh, I love Skip Marley. I listen to him.
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Like, I really. I really like his music. I think his music is cool. I think that the whole Mali family love reggae, and I think that's kind of why Afrobeats is so easy for me, because it's like, I love reggae, I love hip hop. Afrobeats was like the next, you know, logical step in music.
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But I just think it's great. But yeah, so. So not a closet Swifty, then?
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I think she's an amazing artist. Though.
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Don't worry, you're in good company. It's okay. She's not on a lot of rotations. That's true. Definitely not.
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All right, so what, what would you think is the logical next step for you as you're trying to get your music out there? Like, are you looking to do some kind of tour outside of Nigeria? Are you creating a new album? Are you wanting to beef up your social media? Like, what's next?
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I think for now I'm just concentrating on the music. I have a couple singles coming out in the coming months, so I'm trying to put everything together and, you know, you know, consistently give you guys good music. And yes, I'm just trying to get the community solid course, like, you know, fan base. You know, I want that kind of fan base whereby they love me and they don't just love me for my music, they love me because, you know, they love me for other things. My personality is great.
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You know, the lifestyle is there and all. So right now I'm just trying to focus on music and, you know, trying to put myself out there. Honestly, that's just how it is for me. Back to where you live, how big is your town that you live in? Do you know how many people live there?
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I live in Delta State and it's quite, you know, it's quite sound. So I can't. I can't really estimate how. How many people are there, but I could actually make a guess probably like 20, 000 and above. Okay.
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That's kind of like the town she lives in where I used to live. Yeah. Nice and peaceful, easy. I consider that small town. Ish.
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Yeah, like it's small townish for sure. And then for your music, are you making all your own beats? Are you producing all of that? And then where do you do that? Yeah, sometimes.
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Actually, I'm learning how to produce music. Yeah, we have a producer that makes my beats. I have a producer that does the mixing industry and you know, I can feel my touches. You know, I'm part of the collaborative process. But right now I have someone that makes my beats and, you know, gets all the vocals, everything.
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Do you have siblings?
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Yeah, I have just a sister. Is she into music at all? Nah, but she's kind of into fashion. Hey, that's good for you to have in your pocket. There you go.
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You can see that. Yeah. When you're not making music, what do you do?
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I work as a pharmacist.
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So you're a busy boy.
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I think my. At least I watch a lot of YouTube. In my free time, I like to watch football, too. I mean, huge Chelsea time. Oh, okay.
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Yeah, Football. Soccer here. Yeah. Not American football. So my son is.
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Is a huge soccer player. I mean, he's only 10, but he. That's one of his favorite sports, along with Jiu Jitsu. So big, big soccer house here. What do you think it means to be truly human?
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We call this the human behind it. So what do you think it means to be human?
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I think kindness. You cannot be human if you're not kind. You cannot be human if you're not kind. You have to be kind to everyone. You have to be kind to your neighbors, your friends, sometimes even your enemies, because that's.
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That's the human feeling. That's tough. Yeah. That's good, though. Yeah.
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It's good advice. It's tough to do. Yeah. The world would be a better place if everyone was. Oh, my God.
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Yeah. Kinder to each other. Yeah. And I think social media really gets in the way of that. You know, as you continue to grow, I mean, are you worried or how do you think you're going to handle, like, haters or people out on the Internet who don't know you and want to think they know you?
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I think it comes with, you know, getting famous. There's nobody in Nigeria here. There's a saying that it goes, if everybody like you, that means you're actually doing something wrong. Like, you can never be an individual that everybody likes, for starters. You have to understand that.
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And also, I think, you know, social media is not real life. You get. So social media is not something you should take to heart or you should take too personally. So I don't really try to. I'm very selective is what I engage in.
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And I don't, you know, I don't take a lot personally from there. It's just. I see that it's true. To reach a wider audience and connect to my fans, get feedbacks. I know, again, so it's just like that for me.
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You're very wise already. Yeah. Hard to say that. Yeah, yeah. You sound wise beyond your ears, for sure.
00:25:51 -- 00:26:04
Social media, it's got to be so different. Grabbing. We're. We're from, obviously, California. Growing up in Nigeria, you know, you said it can be really tough, so I. I would have to assume some of that has to do with what's caused you to grow up so quickly.
00:26:04 -- 00:26:52
Like, what's. Like, what's it like growing up there in Nigeria, growing up here, you know, while you're young, you already thought that you are supposed to be responsible as opposed to carry some level of responsibility as you grow older. And considering the fact that in our economy is quite tough, you know, you learn things quickly, you learn to do things quickly. So I think it's just mentality. Growing up with a lot of Nigerian people, you have responsibilities, you have things that you're supposed to do, so you should be able to, you know, carry them as you grow up and yeah, imagine that would be somewhat grounding though, right, if you know you have to do that.
00:26:53 -- 00:27:13
Yeah, well, I think to a degree it keeps you in, in focus. I mean, it keeps you, you have like a clear view of what you want to do and what you should be doing. Like, it makes you, it puts, it disciplines you in a way. Because when you know that you're supposed to actually, you know, at this point, you should be done by this. You should be like this.
00:27:13 -- 00:27:42
You know, you are actually plan and execute your dealings regardless of what pressure is there. So, I mean, growing up in a, in an average Nigerian household, that's how it is because you get good education, so, you know, you're supposed to get your degree, you're probably supposed to get a job, just, you know, so you're trying to balance things off. Yeah, that's no different than here. Right? There's it, there's a, It's a hard thing to live your life or to be responsible, but also follow your passions.
00:27:42 -- 00:27:53
It's like that kid sometimes butt heads. No, there's too many kids here who are not being responsible. That's probably true. They learn something from you. Yes.
00:27:53 -- 00:28:04
That's probably fair because, see, he's being responsible and has his job and still following his passion. That's right. Getting it done. Yes. How about.
00:28:04 -- 00:28:32
How do you know if you're overwhelmed or burnt out or stressed out? How does that show up? Sometimes I, I get like crazy headaches because for one, I stay in studio a lot and I've been in studio for quite a while now. So if I'm at the studio probably recording and I'm, you know, feeling some type of way, headaches or that's what's crazy. So, okay, sometimes I think first and forever pharmacist.
00:28:32 -- 00:28:56
I know to a degree how, you know, the body reacts to stress, for starters. So I can actually tell when I'm going to feel, you know, based on that, the weather, when I'm pushing myself too far or when I need to take a break. Because sometimes when you're in the studio and you're trying to write songs, you get Mental block sometimes. So imagine being in the studio for like two hours. You're not able to scribble down anything.
00:28:57 -- 00:29:09
You know, you need to take a break. You need to, you know, do something else. Take your mind off it for a while and maybe it just comes. So, I mean, that's how it goes. Yeah.
00:29:09 -- 00:29:20
Because you mentioned that you guys are kind of hustle. Hustle culture. I mean, we are in America. We're like the hustle culture. And that can sometimes make you push yourself too far.
00:29:21 -- 00:29:36
Yeah, that's true. Of course, sometimes you have to push yourself, but, you know, as a person, you have to know where to draw the line. Because if there's no life, you know, whatever you're hustling for, you're not going to get it. Everybody in Nigeria is. Everybody in Nigeria is hustling.
00:29:36 -- 00:29:47
You know, people here have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 jobs. But you have to understand there's a point to get. So you have to draw the line. Because if you are not alive, you cannot enjoy the money you are trying to get. You understand?
00:29:48 -- 00:30:02
So, yeah, it gets to the point you tell yourself you have to step back and relax. That's why you see that in December, everybody's out partying. Because, I mean, you have to, you know, work hard, play hard to. Yeah, work hard, play hard. That's right.
00:30:04 -- 00:30:15
Gotta do things that make you happy. That's right. And I like to play a little video games, FIFA, you know. Okay. So does your sister live in town with you?
00:30:16 -- 00:30:23
Yeah, she does. Okay, so you get to see her? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. You know, a close by.
00:30:23 -- 00:30:34
So it's not really difficult. That's awesome. What. What do you want? People who have not listened to your music before, what do you want them to know or what do you want to say to them?
00:30:36 -- 00:30:47
I want to let them know that I make really, really nice music. I make music that make you feel happy. It's. When I make my music, it makes me feel happy. So I think it translates into the music.
00:30:47 -- 00:31:03
Right. So if you want to feel happy, if you want to feel joyful, if you're celebrating, if you want to feel alive, if you want motivation, I'm your guy. If you just want to feel good, that's perfect. Enjoy yourself. That's why you should listen to me.
00:31:03 -- 00:31:09
Yeah. Positive energy, you know, goodbyes only. The good vibes only. That's right. Agree with that.
00:31:10 -- 00:31:19
All right. We're not gonna push our Wi Fi any farther, Lemmy boy. We're gonna. We're gonna wrap it up there. It's done well for us, but this has been absolutely amazing.
00:31:20 -- 00:31:37
I have just so enjoyed getting to talk to you. I hope everybody goes out and listens to your music. It is just like you said, it' it's got great beats, you're a great singer. All of it's there. If you do like Burna Boy and Whiz Kid and all Those other guys, Mr. Easy, you're right there with them, in my opinion.
00:31:37 -- 00:31:50
So everybody should be listening to it. Yep. Thank you very much for having me on the show. I really appreciate the love and, you know, thank you for being so amazing hosts. I hope I'll be here sometime again when I'm really big, you know.
00:31:52 -- 00:31:59
That's right. You are. Yeah. Well, I want you selfishly to come to America so I can go to your show. So we got to get you over here.
00:32:00 -- 00:32:10
I learned that totally selfish reasons. But, you know, actually, we'll go turn you on right now. That's right. Watch American football. American football.
00:32:10 -- 00:32:16
Yep. That's right. We'll get your music going for everybody so everyone can listen to. Yeah. Thank you so much.
00:32:16 -- 00:32:26
Enjoy your evening and we hope to talk to you again soon. Thank you very much. Enjoy yours, too. Time for the human hotline. We got a great one.
00:32:26 -- 00:32:45
With all the political commotion in the last 10 years, it's hard not to feel disheartened at the direction everything is going. Going, Especially while raising children. Neighbors are divided simply by the affiliation that they choose. How do we get past further divide and come back together for the greater good? Does it start on the local level or does something need to happen at the top to help calm the waves?
00:32:45 -- 00:33:06
I love this person, this anonymous person, how they think they think like me, like what's going on out there. I know, right? No, but honestly, it comes back to the best way I can describe this is when I was in my master's program, I took a human behavior class and we had to read a book called the Lucifer Effect. Ooh, I don't recommend it. Sounds scary.
00:33:06 -- 00:33:20
It's a difficult. It's not scary because it's about why do bad. Why do good people go bad? And it's so disturbing because you learn about, like, the people in the Holocaust, for example, like the. The followers of Hitler were just people.
00:33:20 -- 00:33:43
There's just people like you and me who just got brainwashed, right? And the key and to every single story in that book and all of the studies that have studied this, like the Stanford prison experiment was another one where they basically took. They created a mock prison and they Just assigned. Some people were the prisoners, and some people were the guards. And then the main thing is they dehumanize the prisoners.
00:33:43 -- 00:33:52
So they just had numbers, no names. And so if you were the guard, I was like, number seven. You started to see. See me not as a human. I was just number seven.
00:33:52 -- 00:34:19
And what was so interesting about that experiment and then all of those horrible things that have happened in our history is that once you dehumanize someone, you can literally do anything to them. And in that experiment, they started to believe that those prisoners did the crimes that their character did, and they were being. They were beating them, and they were getting mean, and they had this superiority, and that person was just the person they do the experiment with. They didn't do anything. That's.
00:34:19 -- 00:34:43
Oh, that's creepy. It's super creepy. But it's also why it's so important that we humanize each other, because the minute you dehumanize someone, anything is possible. Everything's on the table. And we'd like to think that all the people that killed all the Jews and killed and all those different genocides and holocaust and all that, we'd like to think it's just bad people, but it actually wasn't.
00:34:43 -- 00:34:54
It was just people who followed blindly obey. It was a combination of blind obedience and then dehumanization. They made the Jews not human. They said, these are not humans. Right.
00:34:54 -- 00:35:05
They need to be eliminated because of xyz. And people were like, okay, well, you see that pack mentality. Totally. It's. I mean, in schools, because this question about raising kids.
00:35:07 -- 00:35:26
It happens in schools all the time, where I know teachers and educators where certain students won't be at school that day, and the class is fine. Oh, and then you insert a couple of these kids again, and it's just chaos. Like, because they have some kind of leadership and people. Okay. And so changing the whole energy.
00:35:26 -- 00:35:37
Yeah, I've seen that, too. Just going to someone's, like, house, and then a kid walks in. And you can feel the shift because of that one kid in their behavior. And we can't blame the kid. They're.
00:35:37 -- 00:35:51
They're just a product of their own thoughts, beliefs, behaviors, whatever, And. Well, there's leaders and followers. Yeah. At every age. I will say, though, that's why it's so important that I raise Rome, my son, to be a leader.
00:35:51 -- 00:35:56
And he is definitely a follower. And I'm, like, sitting. I'm like. I study this stuff. Like, it's.
00:35:56 -- 00:36:09
You can't blindly obey. Like. Like, even with me, I'm like, you can push back now, you can't be disrespectful, but you can always ask why. If I say like, hey, this is the way it has to be, you're allowed to say, oh, can I inquire why? That's a.
00:36:09 -- 00:36:21
You're allowed to question me. I am not. So as a parent, because I don't have children, how do you feel with the response of because I said so? Oh, like as a parent. Yeah, as a parent, I don't love it.
00:36:21 -- 00:36:33
I've used it because I'm like, I don't know. I can't think this hard right now. I just think that that is okay to say. Sometimes I think I've gone with because it's what's best. And you have to trust me that that's what's best.
00:36:33 -- 00:36:45
Like, I don't want to sit here and explain at this moment. Or maybe I don't know. Yeah. Or maybe it's just cuz I said so. But he's allowed to ask and, and he's allowed to have valid responses.
00:36:45 -- 00:36:52
Right. So if I did say because I said so, and he was like, well, have you considered xyz? I'm. I can consider that, yeah. Oh, some kids are good at that.
00:36:52 -- 00:36:59
Yeah. But it's got, it's how it's delivered, you know, and rum's never been disrespectful. So it's, it's something we have. He knows better. He knows better.
00:36:59 -- 00:37:09
We're in very open communication. But going back to the question, how do we get past further divide and come back together? We have to stop dehumanizing. He brought up politics, right? Political commotion.
00:37:09 -- 00:37:19
Yeah. So I'm assuming what's happening. And I'm not political, so I don't really know. I can't relate. But I assume that one party slightly dehumanizes the other party in some way.
00:37:19 -- 00:37:29
They're saying like, oh, those Democrats. Oh, those Republicans. And as soon as you say those Republicans, that's not a human being. Right. You've just erased that person.
00:37:29 -- 00:37:38
You're looking at them as this label. The donkey or the elephant. Yes. The label or the red. And that is where we have issues.
00:37:38 -- 00:37:58
Because guarantee, you put those same two people, those hypothetical people that are fighting about politics, stick them in a room and say, what's your most traumatic childhood story? And they each told that story. I guarantee their feelings about each other would change. And it doesn't have to be trauma. But that's just an example of a way we connect because we realize oh my God.
00:37:58 -- 00:38:11
That's just a human being that's trying their best. Well. And it feels now like people can't agree to disagree anymore. I know that's true. I know a guy, he was doing Toastmasters.
00:38:12 -- 00:38:29
Oh yeah. Which done that. And he was, he's probably in his 40s. There was people in their 20s, 30s, and then they had the older guys in their 70s, 80s, and there was a couple older gentlemen arguing about politics. After class is over, they go off to have coffee and donuts.
00:38:29 -- 00:38:38
No big deal. And one of the younger Toastmasters there was so confused. He's like, how are you guys friends? Just because. Yeah.
00:38:38 -- 00:38:53
And the old guys are like, what are you talking about? He goes, but you guys were fighting about your politics. And they're like, yeah, well, your dad and I fight about yoga like little girls, but we still get through it. Right. But so it feels like these younger generations aren't.
00:38:54 -- 00:39:04
And I could be wrong, but from my observation. And who. Yeah. Is us older people. And the really older generations are like, look, live and let live.
00:39:04 -- 00:39:12
Yeah. Like that's just, just because we don't agree doesn't. Doesn't mean you and I aren't gonna. That's just one piece of hang out. No.
00:39:12 -- 00:39:20
Yeah, that's again, don't, don't generalize the person into that one belief. That's just one belief. Right. You can't find one belief you agree on. I find that hard to believe.
00:39:20 -- 00:39:35
Exactly. There's gotta be something. So, yeah, he said the, the younger ones were like, thought it was super weird that they were gonna argue about a hot topic and then go have one coffee and donuts and move on with their days. Well, we do say like, avoid, like family dinner. Avoid those topics.
00:39:35 -- 00:39:51
I don't know if avoidance is the answer. We'd have to learn how to have difficult conversations and stay connected. Yeah. And, and that's a good practice is just to be like, how can I humanize the person that I detest the most? So this random person on social media that's disagreeing and you want to get on there.
00:39:52 -- 00:40:09
Oh God, you're so wrong. How can you humanize that person before you respond? I'm not saying do or don't do something because you got to do whatever you, you want. But before you take action, can you humanize that person? Can you think that that's someone's son, daughter, sister, brother.
00:40:09 -- 00:40:22
Right. Father, mother, can you bring it back to their human? And when we do that, if we all humanize each other more, we would be more Connected. And that is essentially the answer. To start on the local level, something have to happen at the top.
00:40:22 -- 00:40:30
That, to me, is the top. We have to become more connected. And we assume we're not connected. Yeah. But we're meeting with, you know, we.
00:40:30 -- 00:40:36
We met with Lemmy Boy from Nigeria. Yeah. That doesn't feel connected at all. No, we connected on something. Yeah.
00:40:36 -- 00:40:48
We're all connected so well. And I think the saying. Does it start on the local level? I would say local level is within your own home, within your own family, within your own community. Absolutely.
00:40:48 -- 00:40:58
And we have to learn to be respectful to each other and be in communication. Yeah. I mean, arguing respectfully. If you disagree, you can still be respectful. Conflict is fine.
00:40:58 -- 00:41:03
It can actually be quite productive. Right. But how do you. Right. How do you.
00:41:03 -- 00:41:19
How do you communicate when you're disagreeing with someone? And can you stay connected with that person and humanize them even more? Because I sent you a video the other. The other day of your brother, my husband, putting his laundry next to the hamper. Right.
00:41:19 -- 00:41:29
Not in it. Not in it. Next to it. Why? And it's like I could see in a marriage how you could be like, you could reduce the person to those things.
00:41:29 -- 00:41:33
Yes. Right. But then I can easily laugh at that. Number one. Right.
00:41:33 -- 00:41:45
And be like, and he's this and this and this and this and all these human traits. He's not just the guy who puts his clothes so close to the hamper. Yes. It's very easy to focus on the negative. Yeah.
00:41:45 -- 00:41:54
Than the positives in general. Yeah. I would. I would absolutely agree with that. So I just feel like people just need to get back to, like, kind of.
00:41:54 -- 00:42:07
I don't want to say, mind your own business, taking care of your own business. Like, we all have, like, get up, be productive, be a good human, be kind. And like you said, sometimes stay in your lane. Stay in your lane.
00:42:10 -- 00:42:20
And. But, you know, none of this problem. Cornhole. No, cornhole is one of those things that it's like everyone comes together and none of that matters. No.
00:42:20 -- 00:42:28
But it's funny because I will see cornhole people. Oh, they're the worst. The online, they're getting into it. This is what's so crazy. Like, so, wow.
00:42:28 -- 00:42:35
The online cornhole community is vile. Oh, yeah. The in person, they're amazing. If you have. You need.
00:42:35 -- 00:42:44
Because I've gotten out of cornhole groups. I was like, I am not. Not. It's dealing with this. But I will say the cornhole community in general is some of the most thoughtful, generous.
00:42:44 -- 00:42:52
If you have a. If someone in your family has canceled, they'll throw a tournament, they'll raise money. They're the first people. It's just like what happened online? Why.
00:42:52 -- 00:43:05
Why do they get all whack online? I don't know. I'm curious. For people listening who are not in the court, if you're in a different community, is it the same pickleball or community good in person and then just vile online? Like what?
00:43:05 -- 00:43:19
Oh yeah, like those mothers groups and different stuff. Like I bet you could find that anywhere. Like you guys are nice to each other in person and then as soon as you get online, everyone's just shredding each other. So weird. Let's stay human online, offline, all the things.
00:43:19 -- 00:43:35
Take care of your business, take care of your family. What a great human hotline submission. Appreciate that. And if you have more, of course you can go to the website that the human behind it.com and submit yours and we'll keep moving through the ones that we have. But that's it for today.
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